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John MacDonald
07-26-2014, 04:04 PM
The cost of a Zodiac mutant is 1500 gold. The cost of a gold star is 500.

Even assuming that you have no legendary mutants from either purchases, PVP or PVE events, here is what I noticed when I compared my Prince Scorpion(Widely perceived as one of the better Zodiacs) to my Gold Zombie(Which I've just gotten. Hurrah!)

Prince Scorpion:

Speed: 5.88

Health: 1437


Scorpion Stings: 354/531
Mummy Curse: 354/531


Zombie:

Speed: 6.25(Advantage: Zombie)
Health: 1641(Advantage: Zombie)

Toxic Tongue: 381/572 (Advantage: Zombie)
Deadly Guerilla: 381/572(Advantage: Zombie).

As you can see, not only does the Zombie have higher speed, it also has higher health, damage and is better in every conceivable way except against Necro.

I had always thought Zodiacs were supposed to be Gold-equivalents since they were unbreedable. I am now divorced of that notion. They seem to be more similar to Silver Legendary mutants.

Howard
07-31-2014, 07:32 PM
After just recently acquiring my first zodiac (also a Prince Scorpion), I have to say, it's stats are quite underwhelming. I would compare it with a silver as you stated.

That being said, its the only Zodiac I have, so maybe it's just this one. Maybe the others are better?

Davy Jones
07-31-2014, 10:41 PM
Comparing my Aquapunzel against other Gold Mutants (level 21)...

Aquapunzel
Health 5404
Attack 2633
Speed 3.7

TerrorDoll
Health 4197
Attack 1524
Speed 7.69

Pit Lord
Health 6315
Attack 3650
Speed 3.33

Zero
07-31-2014, 10:59 PM
You're comparing it wrong, to see how bad they really are you have to compare them to mutants with the similiar speed.

Geminium lv 22
Attack: 2284
Health: 5166
Speed: 4.35

Louis XVI lv 22
Attack: 2820
Health: 6500
Speed: 4.35

Shell Shock lv 22
Attack: 2899
Health: 6312
Speed: 4.55

Zomborg lv 22
Attack: 2617
Health: 5754
Speed: 4.55

The Darkseer lv 22
Attack: 2876
Health: 5987
Speed: 4.17

Wicked Witch lv 22
Attack: 3198
Health: 6548
Speed: 4.17

Enforcer lv 22
Attack: 2534
Health: 6405
Speed: 4.17

John MacDonald
08-01-2014, 10:41 AM
Here's the comparison with a Silver Legendary: Scare Bear.

Scare Bear speed:

6.25

Damage:
315/474

Health: 1332

Prince Scorpion:

Speed: 5.88
Damage:
354/531

Health: 1437

As you can see, he has slightly lower speed and slightly higher health and damage - Just as you'd expect.

Interesting. I wonder if the Zodiacs were supposed to have additional abilities, back when they said the game was going to get them: Damage Over Time for Prince Scorpion, healing for Aqua, etc.

Howard
08-01-2014, 01:48 PM
Adding more to Prince Scorpion

All speeds at 5.88, also ignoring genes.

Prince Scorpion:
HP: 1437
Atk: 354/531

Cerberus Silver:
HP: 1253
Atk: 302/455

Cerberus Gold:
HP: 1687
Atk: 407/612

Nebulon Silver
HP: 1248
Atk: 305/458

Nebulon Gold:
HP: 1680
Atk: 411/617

Azuria Silver:
Don't know

Azuria Gold:
HP: 1844
Atk: 415/682

Looks like it is weaker then any Gold, but stronger then silver. So I guess it's a Super Silver/Garbage Gold.

John MacDonald
08-01-2014, 02:22 PM
Adding more to Prince Scorpion

All speeds at 5.88, also ignoring genes.

Prince Scorpion:
HP: 1437
Atk: 354/531

Cerberus Silver:
HP: 1253
Atk: 302/455

Cerberus Gold:
HP: 1687
Atk: 407/612

Nebulon Silver
HP: 1248
Atk: 305/458

Nebulon Gold:
HP: 1680
Atk: 411/617

Azuria Silver:
Don't know

Azuria Gold:
HP: 1844
Atk: 415/682

Looks like it is weaker then any Gold, but stronger then silver. So I guess it's a Super Silver/Garbage Gold.

Only Azuria is the only Legendary in that list.
Silver Azuria should be:

Health: 1422

Damage: 351/526

That makes him within 20 hit points and 5 damage. I would say that it's looking more like they're basically Silver Legendaries.

Syzygian
08-01-2014, 03:44 PM
It's my understanding that;

Zodiac mutants are weaker than regular Gold mutants.
Regular Gold mutants are weaker than legendary Gold mutants.
Legendary Gold mutants are weaker than Special mutants.


Who is stronger than who seems to become a more ambiguous subject towards the latter end of the list.
Some Special mutants, like Oriax or Goliath tend to end up much weaker than other Gold legendaries in their speed range.
Unless, it's Mr. Marvelous, in which case, there's no one stronger.

:drunk:

Zero
08-01-2014, 06:44 PM
It's my understanding that;

Zodiac mutants are weaker than regular Gold mutants.
Regular Gold mutants are weaker than legendary Gold mutants.
Legendary Gold mutants are weaker than Special mutants.


Who is stronger than who seems to become a more ambiguous subject towards the latter end of the list.
Some Special mutants, like Oriax or Goliath tend to end up much weaker than other Gold legendaries in their speed range.
Unless, it's Mr. Marvelous, in which case, there's no one stronger.

:drunk:
Yes that's correct.

Silver < Zodiac < Gold < Gold Legendary/PvP

As far as I know the only mutants that are stronger than Gold Legendary mutants (relevant to mutants with the same speed) are Mr Marvelous, Ivory Hanzo, Gargantus, George Washington and Louis XVI.

Howard
08-01-2014, 07:17 PM
Syzygian: Not relating to the Gold/Zodiac topic, but I just noticed your signature. I hate you.

My spins thus far:

Gothic: 0/5
Steampunk: 5/5 - 17 spins (Captain Wrenchfury, the only one I wanted, was the very last spin)
Super-Hero: 3/5 - 5 spins (it was actually 3/5 in 3 spins before 20 minutes ago; got two duplicates)
Japan: 1/5 - 1 spin (At least I got Terrordoll; only one I wanted)

EDIT: just got two tokens from beating Atlantic Delta and not 4/5 in 6 spins. Only need hulk; cant be that hard...)

Still, I envy your luck!