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Jordi Daniel Legaz
03-08-2015, 05:22 PM
Well, just like the title says, maybe you could add the forge (5g every 12hs) to the Jackpot as a really rare prize. We all know how long it takes to get back your gold after buying those buildings (min. 120 days).

Now, I understand that the buildings are supposed to be for those "premium" members that buy gold, and I'm cool with that, but making it a rare prize in the jackpot will allow a few free players to get a little bit more gold, which balances a little bit the difference between "gold players" and "free players".

I think the "free players" that are bugging Kobojo of being a greedy company would probably stop (even though I'm a free player myself, I honestly don't think of Kobojo that way, there are way worse companies out there.). I mean, they'd have another way of getting free gold, even if it requires them to play a lot of times at the Jackpot and get really lucky. This can be done with the daily jackpot tokens. (I for one get only one token a day from the daily challenge, no videos for me, though it's not Kobojo's fault.)

Now, what would the Gold players get from this? If you've already bought the gold buildings, you could still try to get more buildings on the jackpot (I mean, it's literally a free chance to get it). Yes, it could be unfair for you, who spent real money getting the building, but take into account I'm talking about a slim chance (not as slim as the JACKPOT, but still slim), as slim as getting a "jackpot only" mutant, maybe even slimmer, so not many free players would have the forge. Also, it'd only be the forge, I think the furnace would be asking too much.

Well, tell me what you think, I'm open to debate, of course.

Jack Jones
03-10-2015, 10:58 PM
Ok 2 points i will address...... you joined in 2013 and this is your first post and you are a free player...... oh dear.

2nd point is that the slots are so skewed against you winning something you actually want there is no real point in playing them unless you get the free tokens, so if they did put forge/furnace in you would have no chance of winning anyway! I have previously asked for the odds on winning prizes to be published by kobojo...... oh what a suprise it was ignored.

My 2 cents.... feel free to carry on.

ZettaX
03-11-2015, 04:57 PM
Ok 2 points i will address...... you joined in 2013 and this is your first post and you are a free player...... oh dear.

I... fail to see your point there. I guess that's the date he started playing the game on facebook, not the date he joined the forum, and the "free player" part; what's wrong with that?

Anyway, you know people DO win the jackpot, others win mutants, so it's not that you have "no chance of winning", it's just a really (really) low chance. I also think that Kobojo's got no obligation of publishing the odds, as long as every prize can be won.

Lastly, of course you'll have a low chance of winning, it's a jackpot. Do you win everytime you're in the real casino? It's usually high-risk high-prize. Then again, as long as you have chances of winning any prize in the jackpot, it's all good.

Jack Jones
03-11-2015, 11:21 PM
Good to see people like ZettaX..... joined this month ..... well probably today (wonder who his real account is?)I guess you missed the point.... why would anyone pay attention to a free player, who has posted 1x on the forum in 2 years, with a bitch whinge comment let alone a company who wants to make money from the game. I will just go back to laughing at your second account now.

ZettaX
03-12-2015, 05:05 AM
This IS indeed my second account. I made it for the sole purpose of not showing my real name everywhere (I even told the mods about it, no secret.).

Now, why wouldn't people pay attention to a free player? specially one from 2013? Ok, a single post. I didn't sign up 2 years ago on the forums, I signed up a few days ago, specially to write this post. It's not even a "bitch whine" comment, I'm just giving a (surprise!) suggestion.

Actually, your "there's no chance of winning anyway" comment sounds more "bitch whine" to me than my post. Kobojo is a company that wants to make money from the game (like almost every company out there?), but they don't just screw up the free players.

Of course gold players have advantages over free players, like getting the new mutants with real cash, but you think your opinion weighs more than a free player's just because you can spend money on an otherwise free game? It's not a right you can buy.

If a gold player has a crappy suggestion and a free player has a good one, believe me, Kobojo won't pick the gold one just because he spends money on the game. So no, you have no rights over free players, like it or not.


PS. A "bitch whine comment" would be something along the lines of "kobojo I never win anything!", "I never win anyway", "you'll get ignored, so why try", "you never pay attention to us"...

Jack Jones
03-12-2015, 11:13 PM
oh god i really am dealing with stupidity here. OK i have repeatedly asked kobojo to post the odds on winning prizes from the slots just to give all players what they are up against in the slots........ no response to this, to be honest they refuse to address my request in any shape or form. Why do they do this you could ask???? Simply put the rare prizes are so hard to get you are better off just buying them from the shop because it is cheaper.

As for whose opinion weighs more is kinda looking at it arse about face (the wrong way round) its not who they will listen to, it is they will go with the idea which will appeal to the people who will spend money on the game (the forge/furnace must be looking a bit of a flop for them on that score).

Lastly try addressing my whole post instead of trying to pick holes in parts of it...... been fun chatting with both of your accounts.

ZettaX
03-12-2015, 11:34 PM
"Stupidity"? I adressed to all your points. Maybe you should re-read everything I wrote? I know wall of texts can be boring, but just try. I even acknowledged the "second account" thing, no point on bringing it up anymore. Also, some people don't seem to understand that bringing insults into an argument to try to belittle the other party is not the way to "win" it.

Ok, the odds are slim. I know that, we all know that, but the odds aren't null (as you make it sound). You can play for free on the jackpot (with jackpot tockens, obviously), so the "because it's cheaper" doesn't cut it. You may want to buy the prizes instead because it's faster, but not cheaper.

The "opinion weigh" part. I commented on that because of the
why would anyone pay attention to a free player, who has posted 1x on the forum in 2 years, which I found to be uncalled for.


As I said on my first post (the one from my... ex-account?), I'm still open to debate.

Jack Jones
03-13-2015, 08:16 AM
Keep this thread up there....... you are working on the idea that i was addressing this from the point of view as a paying player (which i am). I was viewing from someone who ran a business, then sees someone who has been using the services provide by that said business for 2 years, for free, asking for more free stuff........ the problem is you seem to be looking at it as a free player thinking i am having a bash at free players.

Ok ignore the free spin tokens (i get around 10 per day from vids) , but on the slots 1 spin = 10 gold, so 300 spins = 3000 gold. Do you really think they will put the odds of getting either the forge or furnace anywhere near those odds?? I think if kobojo ever grew a set and published the odds you and alot of other people would be a bit shocked. I have played the slots with free tokens, bought tokens (1ish for 20) and gold, If you went back to the old slots there was a better chance to get something decent, since the change well i have made my point there.

ZettaX
03-13-2015, 01:51 PM
I honestly doubt even the mutants on the jackpot have those odds. I was expecting the odds for the forge to be even lower. (Speaking of that, I read around the forum they're planning on changing some prizes, any ideas if it's true?)

You see, I think most free players will see the forge at the jackpot and be like "Oh god I want that" and spend the jackpot tokens (or even gold, if they're that desperate) trying to get it, regardless of the odds. I've seen some of them comment "Kobojo lower the prices of the gold buildings so us free players can afford them", so if you put it in the jackpot as a "free way to get it" even if there's almost no chance to win it, that'll deal with those comments.
Note that I'm not saying all of them comment stuff like that.

^ The "forge in the jackpot" idea was exactly for this, to calm down some of the free players, I suggested it with the "extremely low chances" thing in mind.
But hey, maybe I underestimate those free players, maybe they'll keep on bugging Kobojo anyway.

Matt Maccay
03-19-2015, 07:41 AM
I think its a great idea honestly im a p2w player myself mainly in the jackpot and yeah the odds of getting something you actually want are freaking ridiculous (im so tired of 10 gold and 1000 credits and zombat) but I will adnit kobojo does a lot for their players (30 gold buck maurice, legendary mutants for credits, cheap box deals nice exclusive dealsall their contests and free daily gifts lol they used to give away free mutants thats how I got my first bushi lol) anyway as I was saying kobojo is 1000 Times better than most developers even though they do have some very greedy moments they do hook us up I honestly think the jackpot needs redone and refined alltogether just destroy and rebuild take out some older mutants and replace them get rid of lower credits but dont make it any easier just new prizes replace stuff like take out zombat and bloodberry maybe throw in psychoboar and battletoad replace haggis with halbeard maybe just keep it fresh maybe even have "lucky days" like once a monththe following are ideas that would be cool for different lucky days maybe double the odds or sometimes triple lower the cost to play make all the mutants gold double the credits/powerups maybe all prizes be mutants mainly d-listers be the payout of course the last one would require more gold maybe 50 a spin or 100, throw In the forge and other goodies lol like what about a evo lvl up lol just spitballing

Cindy Gardner
04-03-2015, 05:29 AM
I think its a great idea honestly im a p2w player myself mainly in the jackpot and yeah the odds of getting something you actually want are freaking ridiculous (im so tired of 10 gold and 1000 credits and zombat) but I will adnit kobojo does a lot for their players (30 gold buck maurice, legendary mutants for credits, cheap box deals nice exclusive dealsall their contests and free daily gifts lol they used to give away free mutants thats how I got my first bushi lol) anyway as I was saying kobojo is 1000 Times better than most developers even though they do have some very greedy moments they do hook us up I honestly think the jackpot needs redone and refined alltogether just destroy and rebuild take out some older mutants and replace them get rid of lower credits but dont make it any easier just new prizes replace stuff like take out zombat and bloodberry maybe throw in psychoboar and battletoad replace haggis with halbeard maybe just keep it fresh maybe even have "lucky days" like once a monththe following are ideas that would be cool for different lucky days maybe double the odds or sometimes triple lower the cost to play make all the mutants gold double the credits/powerups maybe all prizes be mutants mainly d-listers be the payout of course the last one would require more gold maybe 50 a spin or 100, throw In the forge and other goodies lol like what about a evo lvl up lol just spitballing

I, personally, think these are very good idea. They seem to be well-thought out.